[The Sharmat]

He normally says the God speaks to him around world-born though, I thought? He never mentions the No-God's voice to anyone but Moenghus, if I'm not mistaken.

[MSJ]

He normally says the God speaks to him around world-born though, I thought? He never mentions the No-God's voice to anyone but Moenghus, if I'm not mistaken.

Yea, right. I guess that's why it's so hard to parse what's what.

[H]

He normally says the God speaks to him around world-born though, I thought? He never mentions the No-God's voice to anyone but Moenghus, if I'm not mistaken.

Yea, right. I guess that's why it's so hard to parse what's what.

Yeah, he talks about, at different times, the God of Gods, the No-God and the visions.  We do "see" the No-God seeming to speak to him and we do see the visions (someone with his face under that tree) but we are never privy to the actual God of Gods.  Unless, of course, those visions are of himself, or Koringhus, post-Absolute and so is actually the God of Gods.

[Wilshire]

God of Gods, No-God, Visions - the not-so-holy trinity.

[H]

God of Gods, No-God, Visions - the not-so-holy trinity.

And so perhaps also One?

[Monkhound]

About the Head on a Pole passage from pages 44-46:
There's One of the Sons of this Place which has crocodile features.
Has one of the Hundred ever been mentioned as having crocodile-features?

I'm intrigued by this, as the whole passage ends with the phrase:

The living shall not haunt the dead

Which could be interesting information as to the nature of the Hundred.

[The Sharmat]

I think one of the high level ciphrang Iyokus calls is described as crocodilian but that's all I can remember.

[dragharrow]

I have an idea that it's the dead god that the Scylevendi worship.

I also think that it is what the non-men call Anarlû. That's what the nonmen call the god the Scylevendi worship.

And men call it Onkhis, although they seem to be specifically referring to the god now that it is dead, not whatever it was before it died.

[The Sharmat]

I'm pretty sure the Scylvendi are just worshiping the No-God.

[dragharrow]

I'm pretty sure the Scylvendi are just worshiping the No-God.

I know that's widely accepted but I don't think I buy it

[Madness]

I'm pretty sure the Scylvendi are just worshiping the No-God.

I know that's widely accepted but I don't think I buy it

Settled out of text, circa 2005 (and so subject to change or to be discovered a lie, as far as I'm concerned, but it's the evidence as I know it to exist ):

And to answer your question, Maltaran, yes, Lokung is indeed the No-God - though this is not necessarily how the Scylvendi themselves see things.

A lot of interesting tidbits regarding the Scylvendi in that thread.

[Wilshire]

God of Gods, No-God, Visions - the not-so-holy trinity.

And so perhaps also One?

Exactly.

[redjako]

He normally says the God speaks to him around world-born though, I thought? He never mentions the No-God's voice to anyone but Moenghus, if I'm not mistaken.

Pretty sure he mentioned it to Akka, but, that was when they were starting to split off. It may have been in the exact chapter where Achamian starts to confront Kellhus when he finally "see's" the Dunyain. It didn't register for Akka, because he was past listening to Kellhus. In that moment, its hard to also take Kellhus "seriously" as well, versus when he speaks with Moenghus, and self-narrates his "insanity" in hearing the No-God speak.

[Gorgorotterath]

“The No-God returns, Akka … I’ve seen him! He is as you said. Tsurumah. Mog-Pharau …”
“Lies!” Achamian cried. “Lies to spare you my wrath!”

It is near the end of The Warrior Prophet...when Kellhus is circumfixed and tries to convince Achamian to help him.

[MSJ]

“The No-God returns, Akka … I’ve seen him! He is as you said. Tsurumah. Mog-Pharau …”
“Lies!” Achamian cried. “Lies to spare you my wrath!”

It is near the end of The Warrior Prophet...when Kellhus is circumfixed and tries to convince Achamian to help him.

Truth Shines!!!!!!